11/10/04 Episode

[footballgirl2004]

Any thoughts on this episode? I thought it was pretty good even though I thought it was a little gruesome. I know we really didn't see the torture but hearing it made it gruesome enough. Wow! The torture was shocking to hear.

A couple of points I like to bring up. The first one being Locke. What was up with him? He planted the notion that Sawyer could have rigged the rocket up so that he could hit Sayid on the head. That notion stayed in Sayid's head and I believed it made him more aggressive towards Sawyer. It looks like Locke was being the devil in this one.

Secondly, I thought Kate enjoyed that kiss. Personally I thought the kiss went on a little too long. I know Sawyer wanted a kiss but that was going a little overboard, but I do believe she liked it even though she really didn't show it in her face. She showed it in the kiss.

Thirdly, Sawyer's story was interesting. I was shocked to find out that the writer of that letter was him. I'm glad that he didn't burn the letter because that letter is a reminder of what he had become. He never saw himself as that type of guy until he saw that little boy. Man, it hit him like a brickwall and now he is punishing himself for what he had become.

Forth, Charlie and Claire. Those two look like a sweet couple. Both of them seemed to be unwanted before they got on that plane and now they found each other. They make each other feel important. As I said, they are so sweet.

Fifth, I like Sayid. I really liked the fact that he realized that after what he did to Sawyer he couldn't trust himself. That part of his life he didn't want to go back to but he did and I think he thought he was weak because of it. Of course, we don't know his background yet but as of right now he seems to be a good character who realizes his faults.

Sixth, I was so glad to see Sun becoming more active and defying her husband. It was nice to see her be a part of the whole group. Good for her!

Finally, this episode really looked like "Lord of the Flies" because one group seemed civiled while others were savages (because of the torture) Will this remain? Will they become one or the other or split into two distinct groups? Who knows? All I know is that the episode showed how rules are important to human development. Without rules we become savages while with it we are not. Now how will this play out? I really like to know.

Footballgirl

[Amrcanpoet]

I would agree that this episode seemed to be the first step towards Lord of the Flies...They had always hinted at it, of course -- you can't really do a stranded-on-an-island show and not nod your head to it -- but, they finally came out and just waved to the book; though, they did it in a way that I think most of us could not deny we would have done the same thing...I really think I would have done exactly what Jack and Sayid did (though, not the fight at the end)...

As for Locke? Oh yeah, big suspicion there as to him being the one who hit Sayid...He has a lot of reasons for doing it, since he seems to be the one who enjoys the island the most. However, if there's one thing I learned from a JJ Abrams show, is that answers are never even hinted at the episode after the question was asked. So, the skeptic in me is thinking it was a mislead...

Kate did kiss Sawyer for a long time...My wife and I kept saying, "He asked for one! Not three slobbery tongues!" I think it was Sawyer's plan of "Showing them some tricks between the sheets," that he talked about. He already did the mislead of evidence with the Watership Down, so that's no surprise that he's still trying to grift on the island. I think he has something big planned.

Overall, I really liked this episode. I think as far as character development goes, I liked last week's the best; but, as an hour of non-stop suspense, this week's was unbeatable.

I actually feel afraid to watch the show, now, knowing that they don't pull punches and anything can happen. I like it when a show does that...Angel was the last one on the air that did something like that, so it's nice to have another one back!

[Tanta]

I definitely agree that Locke seemed to be trying to cause trouble. Quite a turn for his character -- the last few weeks, he seemed to be some all-knowing, compassionate, good guy and now he appears to be planting diseased seeds.

I think everyone would agree that Kate was enjoying that kiss -- although, what girl wouldn't...

I'm not too fond of the idea of something starting between Sun and Michael. During the airport scene in "House of the Rising Sun", Sun obviously didn't leave Jin because she's still very much in love with him. It seems like bad writing to have her become attracted to someone the NEXT DAY!

The writers are definitely hitting us over the head with the whole TEXT thing. The way they had Boone mention it seemed very unnatural to me. I would have said "I saw him reading my book" not "I saw him reading Watership Down". But, maybe people just word things differently.

Since this is a non-spoiler section, I won't address the issue of who hit Sayid...

[Tanta]

I guess it doesn't work to underline things. I meant to say the writers are hitting us over the head with the whole Watership Down thing.